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Reply #20 on: September 17, 2014, 01:29:38 AM


Would love to see women, who are said to represent almost half of the football fans, stay away in droves or boycott the games.



Why just women?

Women received the vast majority of the abuse. But you bring up a fair point.  If the women can get their husbands, boyfriends, etc to participate in their boycott, the economic impact would be that much quicker.

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Reply #21 on: September 17, 2014, 10:13:30 PM
Now the Vikings are changing their tune in light of further child abuse allegations against Peterson from another child he fathered and have decided not to play him next Sunday.

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Reply #22 on: September 19, 2014, 03:05:34 PM
  If I am following this correctly, Adrian Peterson will continue to be fully paid, including Game checks, but will not receive any additional points toward whatever goals may be listed for bonus money in his agreement. The deal reached is essentially as though he were just on the bench, until his legal situation is resolved, or until the Team decides otherwise... any detail on this would be much appreciated.

  This 'escape' clause is applied to at least one additional player, on a different team, after his conviction for domestic violence, I think during an appeals process. Seems like a quick way to settle player status for the NFL, while not giving much penalty to the player, at least for the short term, but the Team takes it on the chin.

  The Team continues paying the player his "contract" amount, at least for every game they play, as though he was game eligible, even though he is not eligible to play. That is an expensive asset, in limbo as far as value to the Team, it seems. How does this benefit the Team as time goes by. We can imagine how long a court proceeding takes, weeks, months or longer, and the appeals process as well. How long is the Team obligated to pay this unable to play employee?

  Does the ineligible player count toward the Game Day headcount of 45 or whatever, or he just gets paid... in otherwords, does his seat on the bench exist on game day... reducing the total headcount who dress and occupy that space to 44 for instance?

  If the Team found a trade partner, and wanted to shuffle the player off to another Team, or just cut the player, fire the player as happened with Ray Rice (so far in that hopefully continuing sage), can they do that, and stop paying him? Is this as though the player were injured, with a broken leg kind of deal? Can the player continue to dress, practice and use Team facilities, weight room, training equip and such during this period, or is he persona non grata, with pay?

  Curious minds want to know. Other than Football, where else do such circumstances apply? Hospitals? If a Nurse is in a domestic violence situation, is s/he sent home with full pay (no overtime of course) and pension, and his/her job held open for her/him until all legal wrangling is settled? Somehow, i think not. How about bus staff at a restaurant?

  What double standards are in play here, and how are such decisions made, as to who allegedly stuck John/Mary and why, or does why even matter anymore. I am not in favor of athletes getting a pass, and not in favor at all of domestic violence, and treatment/punishing abusers and their families alike, just trying to get a handle on what is really happening here. Thanks.

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Reply #23 on: September 19, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
Not a sports follower so I may need to be corrected on this.  Anyway, what I hear is the NFL  has a salary cap for teams.  They can only pay out so much to players.  As Peterson is one of the higher paid members of the team, that limits the Vikings in spending much for another player.  If, as things appear now, he's unable to play for an extended period of time, they'll need to find a way to get rid of him to stay under the salary cap restrictions.


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Reply #24 on: September 19, 2014, 04:20:48 PM
Not a sports follower so I may need to be corrected on this.  Anyway, what I hear is the NFL  has a salary cap for teams.  They can only pay out so much to players.  As Peterson is one of the higher paid members of the team, that limits the Vikings in spending much for another player.  If, as things appear now, he's unable to play for an extended period of time, they'll need to find a way to get rid of him to stay under the salary cap restrictions.



As with much of pro sports, it's all about the money. Sad.

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Reply #25 on: September 19, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
  If I am following this correctly, Adrian Peterson will continue to be fully paid, including Game checks, but will not receive any additional points toward whatever goals may be listed for bonus money in his agreement. The deal reached is essentially as though he were just on the bench, until his legal situation is resolved, or until the Team decides otherwise... any detail on this would be much appreciated.

  This 'escape' clause is applied to at least one additional player, on a different team, after his conviction for domestic violence, I think during an appeals process. Seems like a quick way to settle player status for the NFL, while not giving much penalty to the player, at least for the short term, but the Team takes it on the chin.

  The Team continues paying the player his "contract" amount, at least for every game they play, as though he was game eligible, even though he is not eligible to play. That is an expensive asset, in limbo as far as value to the Team, it seems. How does this benefit the Team as time goes by. We can imagine how long a court proceeding takes, weeks, months or longer, and the appeals process as well. How long is the Team obligated to pay this unable to play employee?

  Does the ineligible player count toward the Game Day headcount of 45 or whatever, or he just gets paid... in otherwords, does his seat on the bench exist on game day... reducing the total headcount who dress and occupy that space to 44 for instance?

  If the Team found a trade partner, and wanted to shuffle the player off to another Team, or just cut the player, fire the player as happened with Ray Rice (so far in that hopefully continuing sage), can they do that, and stop paying him? Is this as though the player were injured, with a broken leg kind of deal? Can the player continue to dress, practice and use Team facilities, weight room, training equip and such during this period, or is he persona non grata, with pay?

  Curious minds want to know. Other than Football, where else do such circumstances apply? Hospitals? If a Nurse is in a domestic violence situation, is s/he sent home with full pay (no overtime of course) and pension, and his/her job held open for her/him until all legal wrangling is settled? Somehow, i think not. How about bus staff at a restaurant?

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Reply #26 on: September 19, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
So true.  Here's how it played out.  On a Friday the Vikings put Peterson on the bench.  Sunday they lost big.  (I read it was due to interceptions and having AP in the game wouldn't have made any difference)
WE LOST! said mgmt.  We'll lose fans!  And Monday AP is back on the team.  Now sponsors react and start pulling money.  GASP!!!!
OK, Vikes say, we're going to get it right.....this time.  He's out!  Guess that's footballs version of three strikes.

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Reply #27 on: September 19, 2014, 06:40:48 PM
$$$$$ money talks. It seems to be proving itself so. That is sad.

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Reply #28 on: September 19, 2014, 06:52:35 PM

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Reply #29 on: September 19, 2014, 08:54:42 PM


Poll: Few Americans think NFL's Goodell should resign

by NBC News

NEW YORK - So much for all that outrage. Nearly 90 percent of Americans say the recent outcry about domestic violence in the NFL hasn't changed how much professional football they watch — and less than a third of the nation believes NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell should resign.

That's the result of an exclusive NBC News/Marist poll, which also finds that a majority of Americans – including nearly six in 10 self-described football fans – say they disapprove of the way the NFL has handled the domestic-violence allegations.

The poll comes after a series of damaging stories indicating that NFL officials had turned a blind eye to systemic domestic violence among some of its players. The mounting controversies began with a new video of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice knocking his now-wife unconscious in an Atlantic City elevator. The NFL had suspended Rice for two games due to the incident. But the Ravens later released the All-Pro running back after the video became public, and the NFL suspended him indefinitely.

Since then, other allegations of domestic violence by NFL players has surfaced, including by Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson, who was indicted for beating his 4-year-old son with a tree branch to punish him, and by Arizona Cardinals player Jonathan Dwyer, who was arrested for allegedly assaulting his wife.

The NBC/Marist poll shows that 53 percent of Americans and 57 percent of football fans disapprove of the way the NFL has handled the recent reports of domestic violence. The survey finds that men are more disapproving of the NFL (55 percent say so) than women (50 percent).

Despite the criticism, fewer than a third of Americans – 29 percent – believe Goodell should be forced to resign.

And a whopping 86 percent of fans say the domestic violence news hasn't changed the amount of professional football they watch. That's compared will 11 percent of fans who say they're less likely to watch, and 3 percent who are more likely to watch.

Regarding the indictment of Peterson, who has been barred from all team activities until his legal case is resolved, 60 percent of Americans say it is wrong for parents to discipline their children by striking them with a paddle, switch or belt.

Just 34 percent believe that kind of corporal punishment by parents is right. But that number jumps to 51 percent among respondents from the South.

http://www.wncn.com/story/26572435/poll-few-americans-think-nfls-goodell-should-resign

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Reply #30 on: November 19, 2014, 03:22:56 PM
Yesterday, Roger Goodell said Peterson will not be allowed to play for the Vikings anymore this year.  Do you think it was an appropriate punishment by the league?

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Reply #31 on: November 19, 2014, 04:28:44 PM

Yesterday, Roger Goodell said Peterson will not be allowed to play for the Vikings anymore this year.  Do you think it was an appropriate punishment by the league?




I do. It's no longer a question of "letting the justice system run its course," since it's perfectly clear he abused his son -- and his "no contest" plea is essentially an admission of guilt.

His sentence? Probation, a $4,000 fine (he makes about $700,000 per game), and 80 hours of community service. Yeah, that'll learn him!





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Reply #32 on: November 21, 2018, 10:45:18 PM

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