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on: October 13, 2017, 04:28:59 AM
Arabians are supposed to have a slightly dished face, but this is ridiculous!  Dogs and cats have both been subject to such extreme breeding that the animal is left with health problems, and now the Arabian horse is the latest victim.  I hope the Arabian horse Association declares this to be the abomination that it is.



Vets warn that ‘concave’ fashion could harm horses
The El Rey Magnum is ‘close to perfection’, according to its breeders in Washington state

Vets are warning that the “extreme breeding” of horses could harm their health and welfare after pictures emerged of a young Arabian horse with a drastically concave profile. Claimed to be already worth “several million dollars”, El Rey Magnum is said to be “close to perfection” by its breeders at Orrion Farms, an Arabian horse specialist in Ellensburg, Washington state.

But British vets and equine experts have told the Veterinary Record the nine-month-old colt represents “a worrying development,” as its deformed skull could potentially cause breathing difficulties. The Guardian has been refused permission to publish pictures of the horse, but the creature can be viewed here.

Tim Greet, an equine specialist, told the Veterinary Record: “I find the whole thing unbelievable. Arabians have always had a rather ‘dished’, face but this takes things to a ridiculous level.”

According to Greet, such “deformity” is more significant for a horse than for pedigree dogs such as pugs, which can suffer breathing problems. Dogs can breathe through their mouths, but horses can only breathe through their noses. “I suspect exercise would definitely be limited for this horse,” said Greet.

Adele Waters, the editor of Veterinary Record, said that every professional vet she had shown the images to had found them shocking.

She said: “My first thoughts were, ‘Is this the work of CGI trickery?’ Many specialist horse vets have had a similar reaction. But the truth is this is a real horse and it has been bred to meet the demands of a particular market that likes a particular appearance. Where will it end? Is it really so bad for a horse to look like a horse and not a cartoon character?”

Waters questioned the morality of such fashion-led breeding, in the wake of similar fears over the health and welfare of flat-nosed dog breeds such as bulldogs, French bulldogs and pugs.

“The real original Arabian horse’s head was very beautiful but they are now being bred purely for that [concave] look. There is no functional value in a horse having a face like that. Vets believe that if you distort the skull like that there’s a risk you affect the airwaves and the breathing capacity of the horse.”

Dr Madeleine Campbell, an equine reproduction specialist, expert in animal welfare and ethics and director of the Equine Ethics Consultancy, told the Veterinary Record: “Whilst it is obviously impossible to comment on an individual animal based only on photographic evidence, as a general principle, any trend towards breeding for extremes of form which might adversely affect normal function must be condemned, on welfare grounds.”

Doug Leadley, a farm manager and primary breeding adviser for Orrion, claimed that “this horse is a stepping stone to getting close to perfection”. He dismissed criticisms of the horse: “I think most of those people don’t breed horses, or show them or aren’t very involved – those are people who don’t understand.”

American vets have recognised El Rey Magnum as an example of an extreme breed, and one vet has said that the horse has no medical or respiratory issues.

Since launching a promotional video earlier this month, the farm has received interest from across the world, including the UK. According to Leadley, the young horse is already worth several million dollars.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/12/outcry-over-extreme-bred-horse-that-looks-like-an-aardvark
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Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 08:58:20 PM
As I saw the image, my first thought was "what idiot photoshopped a horse that can't breath?

The grey area in this photo is the nasal cavity.  As the article points out, horses don't breath through their mouths - this poor animal is going to suffocate as soon as it needs to work hard.

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Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 07:24:00 AM
Ok, that photo is grossing me out a bit.



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Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 03:45:24 PM
I've shrunk it. That better?



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Reply #4 on: October 14, 2017, 07:14:24 PM
A bit.  Very informative but the idea that someone chopped a horses head in two made me a bit queasy.

Now where is Liz?  I thought she'd be all over this thread!



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Reply #5 on: October 14, 2017, 08:07:09 PM
A bit.  Very informative but the idea that someone chopped a horses head in two made me a bit queasy.

Really? Then don't ever do a google image search for body worlds...

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Reply #6 on: October 14, 2017, 09:49:25 PM
I sincerely doubt that this will ever become an Arabian Horse Fashion, in fact if anything it will be a genetic mutation that the breeders will never accept, I know the buyers never will. The Egyptian Arabs have the dished face that most people love (just not like this photo in the Op), but as for ability and looks the Polish Arabs are the attention getters (that's right you read that correctly....."Polish").  The polish have been breeding Arab Horse for a very long time (even saved their foundation stock in WW II).

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Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 09:55:53 PM




This is a horse (if it were actually real) that I would have immediately euthanized.
(sounds cruel I know). This is almost certainly photo shopped. The amount of air required for a horse that is just "mildly" working would not be accommodated by that nasal passage of the above horse. (as was said in an earlier post, he would drop dead being unable to breathe).

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Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 08:37:32 AM

This is a horse (if it were actually real) that I would have immediately euthanized.
(sounds cruel I know). This is almost certainly photo shopped. The amount of air required for a horse that is just "mildly" working would not be accommodated by that nasal passage of the above horse. (as was said in an earlier post, he would drop dead being unable to breathe).


It's real. The breeder even published a video online. Found the link on a german news website.
https://vimeo.com/236796978

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Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 09:04:19 AM
Poor thing looks like he's struggling to breathe after just trotting a little.



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Reply #10 on: November 18, 2017, 09:31:51 PM
If Hollywood could breed its stars to look a certain way, it would.

Yes, this is indeed gross, but there are people in this world who
will do anything that suits their fancy.



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Reply #11 on: November 19, 2017, 02:01:00 AM




This is a horse (if it were actually real) that I would have immediately euthanized.
(sounds cruel I know). This is almost certainly photo shopped. The amount of air required for a horse that is just "mildly" working would not be accommodated by that nasal passage of the above horse. (as was said in an earlier post, he would drop dead being unable to breathe).

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It's head is more characteristic  that of a sea horse

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Reply #12 on: November 19, 2017, 03:03:06 AM

It's head is more characteristic  that of a sea horse
I was thinking the exact same thing. 
And I agree with Liz... euthanise the poor thing instead of showing it off on the www.

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