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Reply #60 on: May 21, 2017, 09:45:40 PM
 Sounds like something that should be high up on Vice President Pence's list for his Commission regarding the status of the Vote, as to validity of living, eligible U.S. Citizens, lawfully Registered to vote, being 100% of all votes counted, at every Precinct, every State. I suppose they can link the Registration with the Social Security report to remove any name upon death, as is routinely done when the Death Certificate is ordered.

  Being so safe, no chance of fraud, why not follow the history (there being a paper trail for every vote counted, after all), confirm the safety as to meeting the goal of only eligible U.S. Citizens being 100% of all votes counted, and this could be the solution.

  Did you Register to vote by Mail as well? I like the idea of having a known address, to follow up on any 'voter' as may be desired... solves issues of many kinds, including Residency. I wonder how the mail in vote is reflected in the "County" statistics. I suppose zip code, even using the full 9 digit zip, would help narrow down all that anyone needs.

  You receive your Ballot in the mail, specifically noted with your Name and Identity Information, and maybe some Voter ID Number as well? I presume so.
Does it matter where you mail your ballot from? For instance, could you toss it into your luggage, and vote from a Vacation destination outside your State, and it would still count as if you had gone to your Precinct, I presume.

  Sounds like a plan.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2017, 09:48:20 PM by joan1984 »

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Reply #61 on: May 21, 2017, 10:42:20 PM
I haven't studied Vote By Mail; I am simply a user, and one who was skeptical originally, but who has become an avid supporter. I think you will learn more from reading a Wiki than from me about the general mechanics.

When I moved to Washington a few years back, I'm pretty sure they registered me to vote at the same time I got my drivers license, and got my car titled and registered. I don't know how they pick up people who don't drive, but I'm sure there is a procedure.

I get a package in the mail a couple of weeks prior to an election. It has a large paper ballot which I use to register my votes by filling in circles with a lead pencil. The ballots are later put into a machine which counts the votes automatically. If there are anomalies, the ballot gets kicked out for special processing.

After I've filled in my ballot, I put it inside of a first envelope which I must seal and sign, attesting to my identify with my signature. That envelope goes into a second envelope, which is pre-addressed for the polling station. I can either pop it in the mail if I'm early, or if I've waited until the last day to vote, I can take to any of a number of ballot drop off locations (essentially mailboxes) up until midnight on election day.
The ballot drop off nearest me was in my local super market's parking lot, right next to the recycling bins.

Typically, the vast majority of votes have been cast long before election day. This allows the polling officials to provide a tentative guess at winners and losers as soon as the polls close. Of course, in very close races, they wait to call the race until all of the votes have been counted.



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Reply #62 on: May 22, 2017, 01:32:41 AM
Personally I have never voted by mail. I prefer waiting until election day. What happens if some bit of info comes out just before election day?



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Reply #63 on: May 22, 2017, 02:35:02 AM
Last minute things can usually be discounted. Such things usually amount to "hit pieces" mailed out by some slimy political action committee (PAC) just before the election so that the target candidate does not have time to set the record straight.

If you've done your research and know your candidate, you'll know if they are the right candidate for you or not.



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Reply #64 on: May 22, 2017, 04:52:56 AM
Last minute things can usually be discounted. Such things usually amount to "hit pieces" mailed out by some slimy political action committee (PAC) just before the election so that the target candidate does not have time to set the record straight.

If you've done your research and know your candidate, you'll know if they are the right candidate for you or not.

I agree but only because you use the usually. Yes, I rarely ever change my mind once it is made up between candidates or issues or whatever. But it is those rare occasions that make me not vote by mail. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying it is bad or should be banned, just that it isn't for me.



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Reply #65 on: May 22, 2017, 06:22:16 AM
You can vote by mail, and still wait until election day to vote. You simply drop your ballot off before the polls close.

At least that's how it works in the two states where I've voted by mail.



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Reply #66 on: May 22, 2017, 05:32:56 PM
You can vote by mail, and still wait until election day to vote. You simply drop your ballot off before the polls close.

At least that's how it works in the two states where I've voted by mail.


Yes, and in my state you can even show up and vote at the polls and void your vote by mail. But those kind of defeat the purpose for me. :-p



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Reply #67 on: May 22, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
  Let's say I am from Finland, and I overstay my visa and am a resident there, may I register a car, and get a drivers license, without much trouble? If I fill out the forms, and Register to Vote at the Division of Motor Vehicles, is there some provision to insure that I do not get a ballot in the mail, say in October 2018?

  If I inadvertently left blank, or even maybe checked Yes, I am a citizen on the form, is there a working 'check' to insure I never get a ballot in the mail? What if I show up at my local polling station, presuming my initial registration goes through without any challenge, do I get to attest that I am who I am, and am eligible to vote, in some manner that can be prosecuted as Felony Fraud?

  Just curious, and it seems at least as secure as what we have in most places today, where no identity is requested or even desired, or even accepted at the Polling Station, if I know the name of a Registered Voter and can verbally confirm the address of record... Good to know you have a system you respect.

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Reply #68 on: May 22, 2017, 11:42:27 PM
In the UK, we register online with the local authorities. Come an election, we get sent a card reminding us to vote. We vote by turning up at the polling station. We can show the card if we want, or just give our name & address. No checks are made.

Yet voting fraud is, to all intents and purposes, unknown.